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Stefan_H
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Posted: Wed Sep 6th, 2006 12:57 am |
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Hi,
I got the MSG4L 433 card kit and installation of the card and a new hard drive went smoothly in a 333 lombard with 512 mb of ram. I installed Mac OSX 10.2 and the DayStar software for OS X, but was unable to install 10.3 because of video wierdness mid-install. I checked the forums and the web and found that if i removed the top 256 mb so-dimm 10.3 installed smoothly. I then installed the combo update 10.3.8 from a thumb drive.
At this point (still with 256 mb in ram), I began copying over files from the old hard drive using a usb/firewire enclosure. I copied over things, such as documents, where permissions weren't a real issue. This went smoothly. I then tried to copy over the contents of my wife's home directory from the old to the newly-installed drive using File Synchronization 1.4. It was going smoothly, but not super quickly, so I went on to work. (Energy Saver was set to dim screen and spin down hard drive, but was set too never sleep the computer when connected to the powe supply)
When I returned the screen was blank (I had turned it down), and the green light that flashes went the computer sleeps was on steadily and ther were no hard drive noises (except from external usb drive). The computer didn't respond to attempts to turn up the backlighting via the keyboard. I tried repeatedly to get the computer to resond to mouse clicks to returns and tried killing the process (whatever it was) using command-option-escape. Nothing happened except the green light stayed steady. I then tried to force a reboot using command-cntrl-power key which also did nothing. likewise holding down the power key for 10 seconds to force a shutdown was unsucessful.
I then removed the power cable, ejected the battery and cd drive, then opened the case, removed the cpu daughter card, reseated the 256 mb so-dimm and carefully reinstalled the cpu and heatsink, buttoned everything up and pressed the reset button once. Nothing, no bong, no drive noises. Nada, zip, zilch. I removed the battery and power cable, left them off for 10-20 minutes and tried again. Nothing. I did it again and still nothing.
I've double checked the apple forums, etc. and see that the Lombard apparently has had wake-from-sleep problems in the past (althought his particular machine never has had those problems...) Right now my wife's upgraded Lombard with its installed MSG4L 433 is an effective paperweight but nothing else. (The upgrade was a birthday present.) I'm inclined to remove the battery, power cable, and PRAM battery leave it that way and start from scratch tomorrow morning. I've spent alot of time working on what's got to be my least successful processor upgrade and am not a happy camper. Help?
TIA for any insight you can shed on this problem.
Best,
Stefan
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Gary
Administrator
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Posted: Sat Sep 9th, 2006 02:21 pm |
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Hi Stefan,
There are a number of issues on Lombards. All which at this time have workarounds.
Sleep issues on the G4 Lombards are caused by the OS (which MAChSpeed Control Fixes), the RAM, and/or the hard disk drivers. I have cut and pasted some notes to help you.
When upgrading the Lombard’s CPU, RAM, Drive and Software...
There are four issues to be aware of. The first being an issue of RAM during the installation of Panther. The second being the issue of installed drivers and the third being the compatibility of some ATA based drives. The last is that the OS may have issues coming out of sleep when the Lombard is G4 upgraded. This is simply fixed by installing XLR8 MAChSpeed Control Software.
Lombard (PowerBook G3 Series 1999/USB) Upgrading and RAM.
While the Lombard officially is limited to only 384 MB of RAM, it easily supports 512 MB total RAM. Make sure that the 2-256’s are programmed as low capacity components with the correct cache latency settings. Many vendors sell Lombard/iMac specific RAM (as do we). You need to beware of any vendors that sell ‘cheaper’ Lombard RAM which will also work in the Pismo or PowerBook G4. The trick is to find a vendor that you can trust. The Lombard 256s use older more expensive parts and, as a rule of thumb will cost 20-30% more than similar PC133 RAM.
Panther installs do have issues with large amounts of RAM.
You will need to remove the top DIMM during installation. Otherwise, the installation will lock up in the middle of the process. Once installed, you can replace the DIMM without any issues. Also note: that Disk Utility will only run permissions correctly when booted from the Mac OS X install disk.
Lombard (PowerBook G3 Series 1999/USB) OS 9 Drivers.
We have noted that the OS9 drivers installed by the OS X disk utility can have problems in Sleep mode and when the PMU is reset. To avoid this issue, simple finish all installations by booting to your OS9.2 disk and using the Drive Setup to update the driver on the drive (you will get a warning that the driver being installed is older than the driver currently installed).
Tip: when creating a fresh drive, install OSX first. Then boot to the OS9 CD and install OS9. You will have to select ‘clean install’ to proceed... This does not effect the OSX install at all.
If you are currently experiencing the dreaded ‘prohibitive sign’trying to boot to your OSX system, then:
+ Boot to the OS9.2 Install CD (hold ‘c’ key at boot).
+ In some situations, to boot from the CD you may need to zap PRAM a couple times by holding the ‘apple-option-p-r’ keys for two chimes.
+ Once booted, open Utilities/Drive Setup and select your drive.
+ Select Update Drivers from the Menu.
+ Click to proceed.
+ Open the Startup Disk Control Panel.
+ Select to boot from the Mac OS9 Install CD.
+ Reboot to the CD.
+ Open the Startup Disk Control Panel and select your drive for boot.
Lombard (PowerBook G3 Series 1999/USB) Newer ATA Drives.
Some newer versions of Toshiba and IBM drives, are not fully compatible with the Lombard. Check with your vendor.
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Gary Dailey
Daystar Technology
http://Daystar-Tech.com, http://Daystar-Store.com
email: gary@daystartechnology.com, chat: garydailey@mac.com
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